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Nov 3, 04 09:44 AM

3% = Not a Mandate.

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I sang it, and I still mean it:

Down in the mouth and not half-right,
But I can feel a change is coming on.
Bloom like a flower in bluest night.
Bloom like the sunlight in my song.

This defeat could be the best thing that ever happened to us. A politicized Eminem? An angry youth culture?

The old Dickensian saw: Best of times, worst of times.

Let's keep this ball rolling.

And I still love you, Ohio.

Posted by Mike at November 3, 2004 9:44 AM
Comments

Thanks for feeding the positivity, Mike. Because, DAMN we're gonna need it today...

Posted by: Kevin at November 3, 2004 9:54 AM

highest turnout in 30 years, 120 million people. i called my buckeye friends yesterday, hoping for reinforcements...

Posted by: julie b at November 3, 2004 10:07 AM

ugh. i could cry. really. where did all the voters go? why is our system so fucked? texas vs. france and texas wins. maybe eventually an angry youth culture will make a difference here, but meanwhile we throw people from around the world like firewood into our great explosive weapons economy. i'm sorry to be so negative, but really, if this is what most of the country wants -- and that is what the local partisanship says too, GOP up in both the house and senate -- than what is left to hope for?

Posted by: nicole at November 3, 2004 10:31 AM

I'm scared, sad, angry, disappointed, indignant, bewildered. I don't understand, I don't know what to do; I'm beside myself. But thanks, Mike, for staying positive.

Posted by: meredith at November 3, 2004 10:38 AM

A good man would prefer to be defeated than to defeat injustice by evil means. ~ Sallust

I grieve. I rage. I stand, slack-jawed in astonishment at my fellow citizens... but I go on. We must. The alternative is untenable.

I love you, America.

Posted by: Kae at November 3, 2004 11:25 AM

Kerry should have stood behind "Every vote will count" and waited until the Ohio numbers were all in, even if it took weeks. Now folks from Ohio are left with the feeling that their opinion didn't matter. While I understand the wait would be excruciating, ALL voices would be heard, and that's the point.

Well, we liberal-treehuggers who believe in helping our fellow man instead of picking his pocket can take comfort in this thought: we can make the next 4 years glass-shard-uncomfortable for GWBush, just like the Republicans made it for Bill Clinton. We need to grab our collective cojones and fight, dammit! Do I hear the word 'impeachment' on anyone's lips?

Sorry, a bit pissed off, didn't mean to take it out on y'all. Thanks for the hope, Mikey, and for everyone's comments, it helps sooth the wound. Much love and hope to us all.

Posted by: Deb at November 3, 2004 11:43 AM

I'm just glad its over with. I now know what some people feel like when watching a game... just let me know the outcome. If the world had a vote bush would have lost.

Posted by: chad at November 3, 2004 11:54 AM

There's another bright side: at least he won't be re-elected in 2008.

Posted by: Kat at November 3, 2004 12:04 PM

Bummer.
Again, here are 4 years of same war-like and aggressive-catholic politics in front of world's face...
A thousand times *very* disappointed for millions of voters who thought Kerry was the right choice (he still is) I belonged to this part though i wasn't allowed to vote. So all I can say is to keep on Moving On!
Good Luck for all. (sorry for my pretty bad written english)

Ben from paris, france

Posted by: Ben K. at November 3, 2004 12:12 PM

Halloween hasn't got anything on November 2nd.

ugh.

Posted by: carrma at November 3, 2004 12:44 PM

What gives? I think New York, PA, NJ and New England should break off. We could probably pull a pretty strong economy...what would the US do without Wall Street? We'd call it "New America" and elect Barack Obama president. It will be glorious!

But yeah..."glass-shard uncomfortable" sounds like a splendid idea.

I don't think I've had enought time to process it to get properly angry.

Posted by: ryank at November 3, 2004 1:07 PM

My boyfriend made a great point at about 2 a.m.: "It's the easy way or the hard way, George... but either way, you're going down."

Time to turn our attention to the Congressional panel investigating the lead-up to the Iraq invasion, no? You remember... the one they pushed back until after the election, to try and stave off the possibility of impeaching a sitting President...

Posted by: Kat at November 3, 2004 1:23 PM

yes, i think an investigation into the Haliburton matter is in order and i would love nothing more than to see a double-impeachment.

it seems all good men and women on this earth can only prevail after they've suffered. and we will prevail.

Posted by: marie at November 3, 2004 1:34 PM

>What gives? I think New York, PA, NJ and New >England should break off. We could probably pull >a pretty strong economy...what would the US do >without Wall Street? We'd call it "New America" >and elect Barack Obama president. It will be >glorious!

Don't forget us pacifist pacific-ers over here! Washington state will join!

Posted by: Danamatt at November 3, 2004 1:53 PM

I've long thought nyc should secede...maybe if we keep extending our shoreline with trash we can join the european union...

ps. nytimes says 2.8%...not even 3%...sigh.

Posted by: nicole at November 3, 2004 2:19 PM

fuck secede - let's stampede

Posted by: Rebecca at November 3, 2004 2:37 PM

Seattle is a city surrounded by water, and for whatever reason the ideals of a leftward culture really sink in here. I'm still confused, because everyone I know voted for what I believe in, and I don't know who these other people are who don't think like I do. When you live in a costal city you forget that almost everyone you meet has come from some other part of the country. They leave because they can't stand their home town. Last night surrounded by fellow film makers; I began to realize who my side was: as each midwestern and souther state fell you would hear the "Fuck you Nebraska, that's why I left you" and a very dramatic "Go to Hell Utah and Damn my whole family". My perception of the world had been that everyone wanted something better and that there was overwhelming support for my man. Well, there is a vast section of the nations middle that gets colored red, and they voted the same last time, and likely the same as the time before. They will stay and have children, and there will always be people who vote in a way that baffles me. I believe it was the group of people who didn't really have a stong conviction about either side who finally voted and tipped it to the right. I don't think it's far fetched to say that the liberal sector of this nation holds the intellectual prowess of our people. This may be our great downfall. There is nothing more alienating than the smarty pants kids saying "do you really believe all that shit they tell you, well, then your simple". It's known that the computer geeks who rule the www.com, most every person behind a film crew, and the majority of voices behind rock and roll all get behind the donkey. So why, with all that power do we fail to reach beyond ourselves? Perhaps when you're being bullied on the playgroud and need help, the guy with the big words and rational behavior many seem like a weak choice compaired to the kid who's six feet tall. All of us with our big vocab words said "look behind the curtain, there's a short man behind the curtain" and they didn't want to because it's scary, and hey that kid looks six feet tall. We can say "Thank God Todo we're not in Kansas anymore", but you know what, there're a lot of people who still are. I know that almost everyone who reads Mike's blog loves the donkey camp, so hey guys, this is our call to action. Let's use this election as a catalyst. There's a line drawn in the sand that divides our nation, and as the waves come to wash it away, lets make sure that it's a tsunami. As it washes inland, please let's show the people how to swim, instead of telling them their stupid for drowning. Enough of my big words, I'm going to go out and do something positive, instead of listening to everyone I love cry. Here we go guys, get out your surfboards.

Posted by: Another Seattle Fan at November 3, 2004 2:46 PM

If New England, NY, NJ and PA succeed, MN would like to join you...

The most disheartening realization of this election is a validation of the past four years. It tells the world that half of America sees no problem with the war in Iraq, the greed, the rich getting richer, the arrogance that is America. Exit polls listed "morals" as a strong influence for voters. Whose morals are these? I had hoped for more.

Posted by: Andrea at November 3, 2004 2:48 PM

And we in Ohio still love you, Mike. Your record deal, by the way, was the best news I've heard all day. And I work in journalism!!!

Posted by: Dave at November 3, 2004 3:08 PM

Also from Seattle, and yeah, it takes some getting used to apparently, but I know people who have moved here because of their personal beliefs and it freaks them out at first that we're willing to accept them...

Anyway, I think that those of us on the left almost lack a voice right now. You have Dean, who was basically a mouth that showed up and couldn't have gotten a lot of moderate support (but cheers to him for getting some attention), Clark who didn't even know where he stood, and Kerry who had the tools to make a moderate appeal across the board and 1) failed to make that cross-party appeal 2) sucked at defending himself. Don't get me wrong, I think he was a good candidate and all, but his inner circle was all cussed up and the only way you knew his plan was to go on the "internets" and look it up on his site. I've been supporting him from the get-go and I hate to admit it, but I didn't even go to his site and check it out until a few days ago.

Either way, thanks for the optimism Mike. Maybe you're right, maybe this'll be the final push that gets more of us pushing back. I can always hope.

Posted by: Jay at November 3, 2004 3:11 PM

I don't know how many of you watched Sentor Kerry's concession speech today, but I must say that never in my experience have I come across a man with such an understanding of what it means to be a leader. He went out with class...and it only depressed me more.

I am proud of the youth turnout, and their collective reaction. Hopefully they'll start setting things on fire.

And don't forget...impeachment of Bush means Cheney rises to action. I'm not sure if there IS a lesser of two evils there. Is anyone else starting to feel that there is no escape route?

Posted by: Merryn at November 3, 2004 3:44 PM


Kerry did go out with class.

But his supporters need to follow by example. . .

Posted by: HEH at November 3, 2004 4:24 PM

i agree with the above statement. did we not learn from 2000?

c'mon. really.

Posted by: ha at November 3, 2004 4:31 PM

and about the record deal...

yay. so you scored by who you know, not on your artistic merits. don't gloat too hard, mike. it's bad for the kidneys.

Posted by: beep at November 3, 2004 4:36 PM

Get over it.

3% still equals nearly 4 million people. And let's not forget GOP gains in both the House and Senate. The majority has spoken in volumes.

My guess is that it may be time for the DNC to consider new strategies...the current ones seem to not be working so well.

Posted by: lurch at November 3, 2004 4:43 PM

but if we all do "the classy thing" and just roll over and die...who keeps that ball rolling?

Posted by: doe at November 3, 2004 4:48 PM

Mike Doughty is a tremendous fucking monstrously super talented artist, and he is also incredibly intelligent. His artistic merits are beyond reproach, in the opinion of this fan. Because he also is in the amicable company of other great artists and has the opportunity to work with them, I think that speaks very highly of a mutual level of personal and professional respect. But, I suppose things wouldn't appear that way to someone so bitter as yourself, beep.

Posted by: Lauren at November 3, 2004 4:58 PM

i'm not bitter. just realistic.

it's hard to see clearly when you're hanging from the man's sack. let up a little babe.

Posted by: swing low sweet at November 3, 2004 5:04 PM

um, well, i voted for gw, am glad i did, and am glad my candidate won. this again, does not make me any less intelligent, nor any less a fan of mike's. i love mike. and i'm a far left leaning conservative (voted for stem cell research funding here in cali). but ultimately, i'm glad my guy won...

...and what's really cool is that regardless of which candidate is president, our system STILL WORKS! and no, that doesn't mean your candidate has to win for it to work. it works because we're not fighting bloody battles in the street over every 'regime' change. we don't lob grenades at each other for liking different leaders. and as long as it stays that way, we'll always be a great nation.

sorry my demo-friends. i love you all. and mike, your record deal is KICK FUCKING ASS.

Posted by: james the s at November 3, 2004 5:30 PM

I always thought that song was about Mo Vaughn.

Posted by: leo at November 3, 2004 5:44 PM

As long as we keep the bloody battles and grenade lobbing on other peoples turf, exploit the natural resources of other countries to the detriment of their development, manage to make a profit in the process, and are able to catch the new Britney Spears video as soon as it comes out, then we're in great shape. Until two or three generations from now when we Americans have gills and webbed feet as a result of all the toxic chemicals huge corporations dump into our environment because they can, that is.

Posted by: Lauren at November 3, 2004 5:48 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

Posted by: Daniel R. at November 3, 2004 6:24 PM

//and about the record deal...

yay. so you scored by who you know, not on your artistic merits. don't gloat too hard, mike. it's bad for the kidneys.//

Hey, looks like SOMEONE from Soul Coughing's sad past decided to drop by and pretend he's bigger and more important than Doughty! You poor, sad, insecure, fat, stoned anonymous poster, you. Looks like you haven't outgrown the Internet yet, have you.

I wonder if it's Sebastian. Or Mat. Or Opus. All you terrible freaks of nature. FREAKS. Without lives. (And probably stealing free internet access to write witty posts on a blog).

Mind telling us who "you know who" might be, you smart motherfucker? Please, come on, tell us. You seem to know so much.

It's sad, really, that while D gets on with his life, making music, and building his fanbase more than ever, there are bitter SC folks who Just. Can't. Get. Over. The. Fact. that the band is gone, and so are the careers of three losers who didn't have the talent to continue their own careers. They decide to pick on a guy with industry connections? Watch the careers go down the drain, mang.

Posted by: Oh Yeah at November 3, 2004 6:46 PM

// voted for gw... this again, does not make me any less intelligent,//

Dude, you are so wrong!

Posted by: dave at November 3, 2004 7:08 PM

i am not one of mike's scorned, former bandmates or anyone in that circle. just a fan observing the whole picture.

sure, mike is great but he needs to ice his head awhile. it's swelling.

Posted by: none of the above at November 3, 2004 7:21 PM

You still haven't said who "you know who" is, so I'm not convinced you're a fan.

And why, oh why, would you call yourself a fan if you're dissing D and his fans on his blog? What kind of dense idiot are you?

Why the FUCK do you care? Why do people like you exist? Go get married, have kids, get a job, stop smoking weed--anything to get off your ass and stop posting on a blog of a man you're obviously jealous of. Work out that insecurity, brother, work it.

Posted by: Oh Yeah at November 3, 2004 7:44 PM

How is announcing that he got a record deal a sign that his head is swelling? It's news. Get it? It's the kind of news we're trying to find by logging on. Don't hate the playa.

Posted by: drew at November 3, 2004 7:59 PM

from dave:

// voted for gw... this again, does not make me any less intelligent,//

Dude, you are so wrong!


~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_

well, it's sad that you think that way. i don't discount people for their political beliefs whatsoever. i may not agree, and i may even vociferously DISagree, but i'd never assume that i know more than someone who votes a different way than me...but then again, i'm not a facist...are you?

Posted by: james the s at November 3, 2004 8:12 PM

There's a lot of us in Cleveland that voted, but we can't make up all of Ohio. It sucks. Can you believe only , what, 18% of the student body voted? And everyone's going to bitch about cost of higher learning...

Posted by: Emily at November 3, 2004 8:12 PM

One idea that was tossed around while the media was tryinbg to figure this whole thing out is that there has been some in-country migration. I have notice a huge influx of "Ohio" license plate in KY over the past year. I assume many of the thousands of people that lost their jobs in Ohio moved away looking for work to, say, KY, where the locals tend to vote to the right.

Posted by: Brian at November 3, 2004 9:24 PM

Was there some sort of election or something?

Posted by: tom at November 3, 2004 11:54 PM

Good to hear about the record deal - at least someone is having a bright spot out of this week.

Posted by: bkwyrm at November 4, 2004 12:37 AM

London, Uk, last night.I, the lone American listing like a gravestone at the bar. As I sat quietly in the corner of my local reading the Gaurdian, nursing a pint and soothing my soul... the good people of England started coming to me, one by one and in hushed tones they expressed their sorrow and empathy.They began telling me that everything would be OK, sometimes things like this happen, chin up...this too shall pass.With little pats and murmers and the occasional squeeze (unusual for the Brits indeed)people I have only spoken to once or twice felt the desire to console me...how they knew whom I had voted for and just how sad I was is still a mystery to me this morning.I felt cheered by the acceptance and care...but I was a little baffled at this behavior.And then I realized the last time I had seen this...
It was at a f***ing funeral.

Posted by: muffin at November 4, 2004 5:26 AM

Oh, yeah, and I'm from Cleveland Ohio...a city that should have know better.

Posted by: muffin at November 4, 2004 5:29 AM

Yes, Kerry got decent numbers in Cleveland, as well as Franklin county (Columbus/OSU) and Athens county (OU). Unfortunately, the young people in the rest of the state didn't step up and do their part. I campaigned hard for Kerry, and spent hours and hours knocking on doors, making phone calls, setting up fundraisers, etc., really targeting young people. It's frustrating to think it didn't help. I've volunteered with the Dems in the last 3 elections, and no matter what P. Diddy tries to tell you, apathy among the youth is getting worse, not better.
That said, congrats on the record deal, Mike. Excellent news.

Posted by: Sara at November 4, 2004 8:22 AM

Many thanks for the uplift, Mike. We definitely needed it after that dreadful day.

Posted by: Little Bill at November 4, 2004 8:57 AM